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Rembrandt

Two old men disputing, ca. 1628
Melbourne, National Gallery of Victoria, [..]
Bredius 1935, no. 423
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Object information
Object category
painting
Support/medium
panel (oak), oil paint
Shape/dimensions
rectangle (portrait format) 72,4 x 59,7 cm
Signature/inscription
Information about the signature, dating, inscription or any other mark on the front or back of the art work
  • monogrammed lower left: RL.
    the monogram was followed by the date 1628 that is no longer visible (Hoff/Devapriam 1995, p. 229-232)
Current attribution
Rembrandt
Date
Exact or approximate dating of the described art work; the search parameters adopted for this art work in this database, are found in brackets.
c. 1628 (1628)
Although the date on the painting that was read as 1628 is no longer visible, a date around 1628 for the production of this painting is considered plausible by most art historians (see for instance: Hoff/Devapriam 1995, p. 229-232; Corpus of Rembrandt Paintings 1982-2015, vol. 6 (2015), no. 27; website museum, accessed 2017-10-20).
Artistically related
Artistically related to other work
Such as a preparatory studie, comparable composition, other version, or copy of the artwork in this record.
  • based on
    Rembrandt, Zittende oude man met boek, van achteren gezien
    Schatborn 2011, p. 302

  • copied in print by
    Pietro Monaco
    engraving, with the inscriptions: ELISEO CHE PREDISCE I REGI ATTENTATI CONTRO SE STESSO / Eliseus autem sedebat in domo sua, et Senes sedebant cum eo. Reg. L. 4. cap. VI. V.32 / Pittura di Rembrandt del Reno posseduta dall' ill. mo Sig. Bortolo Bernardi a S. Apollinare. / Pietro Monaco del. scol. - e forma in Venezia (Corpus of Rembrandt Paintings 1982-2015, vol. 1 (1982), no. A 13)

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Creation date: 2003-11-27; Last modified date: 2021-12-09

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